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Post by silentpyramid on Aug 6, 2006 20:31:59 GMT -5
Hi! While writing a guide about Clock Tower series, i noticed some elements of the CT3's story, that likely are so-called "plot holes", so i wanted to ask your opinions on these first: 1. The protagonist of the third game -- Alyssa -- bears the same name and wears the same clothes as "Alyssa" from "the Struggle Within", yet this character has absolutely no relation to each other. Is there any point to give a same names to different characters? 2. The main game antogonist bears the surname "Burroughs", yet in the original game it was "Barrows". Looks like a translation error - most likely the translation staff didn't synchronized their name spellings with the previous translated versions of the game... 3. In CT3 we visit the Burroughs (Barrows) castle - and it has a huge clock tower. But there was no Clock Tower at this castle (we saw the castle in CT2) - the clock tower was in Barrows *mansion*, which is in Norway - and because of that clock tower, the mansion got the same name. 4. The game also states that Hamilton's mansion was build on the same place where Burroughs (Barrows) castle once was - noting the fact that CT3 events took place in the end of 2002 year and Hamilton Mansion already existed when Alyssa was born - so we must think that in 1987 Burroughs (Barrows) Castle already didn't existed... NOT TRUE! We visited it in CT2, which takes place in 1996. How come? Well... opinions? Maybe, somebody could also add something?
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Aug 6, 2006 23:36:32 GMT -5
1. In the original version of "The Struggle Within", the lead character's name was Asian, just like the rest of the cast. It was changed to "Alyssa" in the US version. Technically, in Japan, when CT3 was being made, none of the games had a character by the name of Alyssa, so they gave it to the new lead character.
2. The first company that had the rights to the series, accidently translated the name as "Barrows". Capcom, who got the rights later on, correctly translated it for the new game as "Burroughs".
3/4. There could have been more than one "Burroughs Castle" back then.
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Post by silentpyramid on Aug 8, 2006 21:02:27 GMT -5
1. In the original version of "The Struggle Within", the lead character's name was Asian, just like the rest of the cast. It was changed to "Alyssa" in the US version. Technically, in Japan, when CT3 was being made, none of the games had a character by the name of Alyssa, so they gave it to the new lead character.
I know about name changes, but somehow i doubt that the guys, writing the whole scenario didn't knew the names for the Us-version of the previous one... 2. The first company that had the rights to the series, accidently translated the name as "Barrows". Capcom, who got the rights later on, correctly translated it for the new game as "Burroughs".
So it really was an error... In my opinion, it would be better if they left the previous version of the name - because of the different names some fans were led to believe that "Barrows" and "Burroughs" were completely different families. 3/4. There could have been more than one "Burroughs Castle" back then. That makes sense but... considering the CT2 (i mean - CT USA\CT2 JP) events, i think it was implied that there was only one Barrows castle - otherwise, for example, how characters was so sure to which castle they must head to? And there was not a slightest hint that there could be more of one Barrows castle...
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Post by victim on Feb 3, 2007 1:12:02 GMT -5
'The struggle within' protagonist's english name was Alyssa HALE, it is normal for two people to have the same name. as for uniform, Yuu's (asian name of SW) skirt is all green, whereas CT3's Alyssa's skirt is a patterned color mixture of orange, green, ect. Plus we don't know if the emblems ( on their pockets) are the same. (Yuu's school uniform is that sailor suit type, you can play the game with her wearing it by using a cheat code).
There could be more castles...
By what I heard about jap ct2 the barrows moved to a different area and so built the mansion, another family member from the branch or perhaps their ancestors, decendants moved ito other different areas. Didn't they say in CT3 that Alyssa's great + grandfather changed his family name to Brown and later on it was changed to hamilton? couldn't the family members split up and go to different areas in the world?
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Feb 3, 2007 1:57:03 GMT -5
Alyssa Hale's school uniform was, in fact, the green outfit she wears by default. If anything, the other costume might be her summer uniform.
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Feb 11, 2007 20:43:24 GMT -5
Also, as an addition, though it does not change anything, Clock Tower 3 takes place in April of 2003(for the most part).
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Post by victim on Feb 12, 2007 3:52:34 GMT -5
In addition to he outfit... It doesn't change the fact that their skirts are different AND the tie is worn differently.
(i'm not sure about his one but wasn't yuu 16 years old or was it 15? Alyssa was 14 turning 15)
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Feb 12, 2007 12:49:04 GMT -5
You are kind of missing the point. No one here is arguing that the girls are the same person. Such a thing is completely impossible.
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Post by victim on Feb 13, 2007 7:19:51 GMT -5
sorry got carried away...>w<;, well, I guess there are no more plot holes! there!
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