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Post by ObscureNightmares on Sept 15, 2007 13:01:27 GMT -5
I'm telling you, don't be fooled. She is an admin, and of a forum that has many features this one does not. AFTER that, there is evidence of her admitting she does not have it. I've looked into this.
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Post by mrbates on Sept 15, 2007 19:05:13 GMT -5
She never stated she did not have this particular item. She later said she ordered it but it did not come yet.
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Sept 15, 2007 19:26:14 GMT -5
I'm not an idiot. I saw the topic with my own eyes. And you mentioned seeing it to. If she's threatening or bribing you to lie for her, you should just leaver her forum, which I seriously hope you have done already.
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Post by victim on Sept 15, 2007 21:43:05 GMT -5
Please stop this Obscure, Mr.Bates, everyone that's enough; I would like to go into this forum without even seeing the words enigma or DCJ or trolls or any of the like again.
All this talk is getting me really depressed and, actually, slightly annoyed. I don't know how much longer I can take it...
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Sept 15, 2007 23:58:11 GMT -5
You think you're the only one that's annoyed? I'm sick of her and her staff bothering me and this forum. And it's only made worse when people support and defend her. As long as she's doing all this, I have to defend myself.
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Post by victim on Sept 16, 2007 9:18:02 GMT -5
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Sept 16, 2007 9:48:07 GMT -5
You have no idea what is going on, so I am very offended by your post. Sure, she closed the thread. That does not change all the things she did, the lies she posted in it, nor the fact that she and her friends are using other mediums to harass me online. The trolls on her forum have been bothering me for over a year, going so far that I am in the process of contacting the FBI, along with the managers of a convention I frequent that was threatened and the mother of an underage girl unlucky enough to share my username and get threatened. And for your information, yes, they have both threatened and tried to meet not only me offline, but my friends and family as well. They have photobuckets full of pictures the drew of themselves raping me. I've actually got a whole thing full of screenshots where they keep planning attacks on forums I run. Maybe this is just a "poking fun" to deranged people like them and you, but in my country, such harassment is now considered a felony and can carry some very serious penalties.
There is no hope we could ever be friends, not after how you just talked to me after all that I have been through because of them. Why don't you pay a visit to my Rule of Rose forum? See all the proof and eye-witness accounts of the horrible things they've done to me. Try being unable to talk to people on IM, because they like to start up chats with you in a friendly matter, just to mess around with your feelings. I had three girls create fake identities and play the role of friends to me for months. Then I realized who they were and what they were doing. It's been over a year, but these attacks just keep coming, and they are getting more serious. The trolls associated with enigma spammed a forum moderated by an underage girl with over 1000 messages, saying all the brutal ways they wanted to rape her, because they thought she was me. Her mom read these messages and is contacting the authorities. They have made threats and attempts to meet up with my friends on line via an anime convention, so now the staff that runs that con are also trying to do the same.
So, victim, you are the one who needs to grow up. I'm stuck dealing with a large group of seriously depraved trolls who are partly controlled and supported by a girl who once pretended to be a good friend of mine. And they are very dangerous, or else the authorities would not even be involved. Maybe you should learn more about the situation before you go around saying stupid stuff like that and insulting people.
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Post by abraveliltoaster on Sept 16, 2007 13:47:36 GMT -5
they talked about wanting to rape someone? I don't find that funny one bit at all.... that acutally makes me really really F***ing pissed... who are these people? I mean I know who they are, they harass you, but what the hell is there problem exactly? why do they have such a hatred towards you obscure?
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Sept 16, 2007 14:23:07 GMT -5
It all started with one girl who was causing trouble on another forum of mine. No matter how many warnings I gave her, she kept it up and eventually left me with no other choice to ban her. She made a seriously nasty forum, where I was flamed and lied about, and many attacks were planned on me in great detail. There are many witnesses to this, as well as actual evidence. Enigma supports these trolls, and even tries to tell people that it was I who attacked them, even though I actually have screenshots of them planning their attacks on me.-.-;
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Post by spincutedge6272 on Sept 18, 2007 4:37:53 GMT -5
Umm... wow, at this point, I don't know whom to believe. On one side, you claim to be attacked by these people; yet on the other side, some comments on DCJ label your claims as false. At this point, it's all confusing.
There is no real concrete evidence to support either side, so I can't really pledge loyalty to any side (although in terms of boards, I like this one better). Either way, I just hope things won't reach, if it hasn't already, a point where one's reputation gets damaged so much that the scars would last forever.
Nonetheless, as a long-time member of this board, I wish you the best in your endeavors, Obscure. Don't let them get to you too much. Sorry if this doesn't help you.
~SPE
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Sept 18, 2007 18:28:12 GMT -5
But there is evidence, even aside from the numerous witnessed: www.freewebs.com/rorfan/These are screenshots someone took of the trolls website, which feature them plotting an attack on me and my forum. The forum they are plotting to attack is one where my username is PrincessJennifer, but they have a fake account they created on their with the same name, so don't be fooled. And also, keep in mind that these are a few posts from one thread. They had over one thousand threads, with many pages, filled with smut that would scar you for life.
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Post by spincutedge6272 on Sept 19, 2007 7:37:52 GMT -5
Wow... I guess I'll take your word for it. Since those posts are just small snippets of an apparent "motherload" of threads, I won't deny that people have truly intentioned to attack you. But there is one thing: it doesn't really link enigma to these trolls since there is no mention of her participation.
Still, nonetheless, I can see that they've drawn your ire and that's understandable. According to the "trolls" and their reasons for attacking you, it probably has something to do with how you act around them, but that fact I am not able to relate to, for the side you've shown me is a side that is nice and perhaps somewhat defensive, but the defensive part is probably due to the smut you've had to endure.
Just please do remember though, on the internet, everyone is faceless and personal attacks don't mean one bit unless you've met the perpetrators in question. Perhaps these attackers are a******s, but they won't always be there since they're just faceless people.
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Post by ObscureNightmares on Sept 19, 2007 15:20:22 GMT -5
I've already stated that these guys have made attempts to meet me offline, and currently, there are three parties in the process of contacting the FBI over harassment by these guys. I've done nothing to them. All I did was warn a girl for saying and offensive word, she got out of control, and eventually had to be banned. These guys are a seriously disturbed group. And for reference, the PrinceJoshua in those screencaps is RetroScissorman. Those are the guys that enigma claims I attacked, and she has numerous members of their group on her forum, so it's pretty clear she's aligned with them. In the end, the FBI will get to the bottom of it.
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Post by spincutedge6272 on Sept 20, 2007 4:45:46 GMT -5
Well, to say that they are indeed planning to meet you in person just for the sake of harassing you further is as low as it can get. I'm familiar with internet banter and how any two people can just arouse so much hate between each other despite not knowing each other personally, but if they did want to meet you as so to attack you, then that's blatant and unjustified hate. Perhaps, like you said, they are just disturbed and maybe have nothing to do in their lives but dwell on drawing other people's ire on the internet.
But once again, I've never met any of these perpetrators, not even to exchange idle words with them. It would be naive of me to instantly loathe each of them based on how they act towards other people and not based on how they act towards me. Once again, though, I do wish you good luck in resolving these issues, Obscure, since you are the only one in this "battle" whom I know even just a little.
I'm sorry that I can't be of much use to you in your hardships, but at least you've shown me why you bear such a grudge against them, and in that respect, I see your anger towards them justified. Good luck in your endeavors.
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Post by victim on Sept 20, 2007 7:19:28 GMT -5
After reading this link, I must say, my mind hasn't really changed much. Yes, I find it very convincing evidence and I still believe you. I was just annoyed by the fact that you became so defensive and even on people who did no wrong. (I WAS kinda pissed when you banned me after I said a little joke, I asked over 25 people off-net what exactly I did wrong, and they said you were being immature, sensitive and unprofessional) Like I said to you once, if you give them what they want, they'll just keep on picking on you. 'Goat Prince' (I think his username was) wrote the whole plot about messing with your mind and making you seem all paranoid and it worked didn't it? I may not like you, you may not like me; but I don't hate you either and I'm still on your 'side' if you will.
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