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Post by ObscureNightmares on Jan 3, 2008 22:14:51 GMT -5
Laws like that are stupid as heck.>_>; There's a fine line, and mrbates crossed it. He stole things from this forum and misused them. It's not the same thing, no matter how much you think so.
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Post by TemporarySanity on Jan 9, 2008 1:05:52 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but she speaks the truth. A lot of trolls are members on DCJ, and their admin has been taking full advantage of their eagerness to do wrong. It's sad what the internet is coming to.
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Post by Alyss on Jan 15, 2008 16:29:16 GMT -5
Yeah but considering the joke is that internet is suposed to be used for bad things anyway, it's not all that suprising.
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Post by ladyburroughs on May 3, 2008 21:18:37 GMT -5
What I want to know, Obscure, is how did this little scuffle with enig start? I'm not siding with her or you, but I'm a bit curious.
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Post by ObscureNightmares on May 3, 2008 21:58:57 GMT -5
I think there's actually a post describing it in the Annoucements section. From memory, and it has been awhile, the start was when she started using underhanded methods to steal members from this forum. I helped her revive her old site and forum and was even a mod there, but it wasn't active. Suddenly, I start getting reports that she is soliciting people to join her forums by pmming here, among other things. I ask her via IM to stop doing this, and she was extremely rude towards me. Then, other things started to happen. She demodded me out of nowhere on her forum, banned anyone on her forum who chose to remain here as well, and had spies infiltrate to start trolling, hacking, and stealing our content.
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Post by ladyburroughs on May 3, 2008 22:53:33 GMT -5
I asked about this whole mess from enig (I'm a member of DCJ, as Ms.Mary, and I'm actually quite active there. I should probably post here more, that is if I don't get banned for what I'm about to say) and her story sounds a lot like yours, but points the blame at you, and her story seems more plausible. I don't want to take sides, but I believe towards enig, as it seems like you have a little fault in this argument. Don't take it the wrong way, but you seemed slightly defensive in the debates with Jigen and phobos (also, I'm friends with phobos, and he doesn't act troll-like) and you put up the same argument over and over. Enig, to my knowledge, hasn't really done anything you have accused her of. Many members of DCJ are members here as well (Ikary, for example), but you say they have left your forum. Perhaps Enig should not have demodded you, but she says she did it because you were inactive. Also, I've seen the 2 of you talk peacefully on both her and your forums (though you banned each other). Also, I do not recognize the members of the link you posted, and they don't seem to be in the member list at DCJ. I also don't understand why you attacked mrbates. All he did was simply say enig has the disk, after defending you during the debates with other members, and then you accuse him of theft. Your debates with phobos, victim and Jigen felt like you were simply repeating your opinion rather than delivering a solid defense for your point. I also notice you edited Alyss' post, which makes me think she said something against you and you refused to allow that. Overall, I believe your at fault here, not for actually starting the argument, but for worsening it. If you ban me, edit my post, or deliver that same weak argument to defend yourself you prove my point.
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Post by ObscureNightmares on May 4, 2008 0:20:07 GMT -5
My statement is the truth. I never started nor worsened the argument. After what enigma did, she was banned, and I cut off all contact from her. It was she who persisted.
First, she teamed up with a very depraved and dangerous group of trolls who had been harassing me on another forum I own. Believe me, they excel at acting nice and sweet in public, but you'd probably actually throw up if you heard even an inkling of the stuff they've done. Second, she sent them as well as others here to troll, steal our content, and try to lure more members away. I have never had any contact with her at all since when I said, but she's continued her attacks on me. She even went as far as to try and claim I had attacked her forum, which I have never done and would never do. I don't know what she told you, but the odds are likely that it was a lie, as is most of the stuff they have come up with over there. It's hard for me to refute it if you won't say exactly what it is. As for the demodding, her forum itself was inactive, and the boost in activity was from her escapades in stealing members behind my back here. Since we were supposedly good friends, it was quite a hurtful betrayal.
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Post by Alyss on May 20, 2008 23:41:26 GMT -5
>_> actually I only made a joke about a song from Avenue Q, about what the internet is used for. I don't think Jen likes that word. I don't think I said anything else.
I can't really take a side on anything unless I witness it, and unfortunately I'm never around during these events, like with the Rule of Rose forum. But I can say from the things they did to a friend of mine, they aren't very good people.
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Post by ObscureNightmares on May 21, 2008 2:41:43 GMT -5
Huh? We weren't talking about you, but someone else who did bad stuff.
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Post by Alyss on May 21, 2008 9:36:41 GMT -5
She/he said something asking about why did you edit my post. >_> I was just telling this person the reason you probably did it.
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Post by ObscureNightmares on May 21, 2008 11:21:14 GMT -5
Could have just been a spelling error.
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